Leichter leben mit Faber-Castell

Sei­nen Kun­den und vor allem deren Dau­men machte Faber-​Castell im Jahr 1979 das Leben leichter.

Leichter leben mit Faber-Castell

Anzeige1 im Maga­zin „DER SPIEGEL“ (1979)

Und worin bestand die Erleichterung?

Musste man beim her­kömm­li­chen Fein­mi­nen­stift den Drü­cker betä­ti­gen, um die Mine vor­zu­schie­ben, so bot der TK-​matic einen auto­ma­ti­schen Minen­vor­schub. Dazu saß das Minen­füh­rungs­röhr­chen beim Schrei­ben auf dem Papier und glitt mit abneh­men­der Mine in den Stift zurück. Hob man den Stift ab, fuhr das Röhr­chen wie­der her­aus und löste dabei den Vor­schub aus, der die Mine bis an die Spitze trans­por­tierte (so ragte sie auch nie aus dem Röhr­chen und war dadurch vor Bruch geschützt). – Da es zusätz­lich einen Drü­cker gab, konnte man die Mine auch wie gewohnt trans­por­tie­ren; mit knapp 1,4 mm pro Druck war der Vor­schub aller­dings recht groß.

Leichter leben mit Faber-Castell

Nach dem TK-​matic2 gab es von Faber-​Castell den sehr ähn­li­chen alpha-​matic, der im Gegen­satz zu ers­te­rem eine koni­sche Spitze hatte3. Soweit ich weiß, war der TK-​matic nur in den bei­den hier gezeig­ten Vari­an­ten, der alpha-​matic jedoch mit schwar­zem Kunst­stoff­schaft und in meh­re­ren Metall­aus­füh­run­gen erhält­lich. Alle hat­ten die glei­che cha­rak­te­ris­ti­sche Rän­de­lung des Griff­stücks und wur­den nur für 0,5-mm-Minen mm angeboten.

Leichter leben mit Faber-Castell

Dem TK-​matic und dem alpha-​matic folg­ten viele wei­tere auto­ma­ti­sche Fein­mi­nen­stifte (eine inter­es­sante Über­sicht gibt es unter „Com­pre­hen­sive list of Auto-​Advance Pen­cils“ bei Knocko­logy). Zu den aktu­ell erhält­li­chen Model­len gehö­ren der Pilot S30 mit Holz­schaft, der Pen­tel orenz­nero, den es für drei Minen­durch­mes­ser gibt, sowie der Mitsubishi/​uni Kuru Toga Dive, der als ein­zi­ger ohne auf­sit­zen­des Minen­füh­rungs­röhr­chen aus­kommt, da der in die­sem Modell ver­wen­dete Kuru-​Toga-​Mechanismus die Mine nicht nur dreht, son­dern auch vor­schiebt. Der Faber-​Castell TK-​matic – vor allem die L-​Variante mit dem Metall­schaft – bleibt jedoch ein­zig­ar­tig und ist heute nicht ohne Grund sehr gesucht.

  1. Ja, „TK“ (für „Tech­ni­ker und Künst­ler“) ist tat­säch­lich eine für Zei­chen­stifte geschützte Wort­marke von Faber-​Castell; sie wurde 1969 ein­ge­tra­gen. – Bei ihr han­delt es sich übri­gens eine sog. ver­kehrs­durch­ge­setzte Marke, d. h. es bestand eigent­lich ein Schutz­hin­der­nis gemäß Mar­ken­schutz­recht, doch da sie lange benutzt und schließ­lich mit einem Unter­neh­men ver­bun­den wurde, war sie schutz­wür­dig.
  2. Das Patent für den TK-​matic, „Füll­mi­nen­stift mit auto­ma­ti­schem Minen­vor­schub und Nach­schub der Fol­ge­mine“, wurde 1978 ange­mel­det und 1980 offen­ge­legt. Hier lohnt der Blick auf die Zeich­nun­gen!
  3. „TK-​matic“ wurde 1979 als Wort-​/​Bildmarke ein­ge­tra­gen und 1987 folgte „alpha-​matic“.

31 Kommentare zu „Leichter leben mit Faber-Castell“

  1. Not long ago, I was pur­suing one of these pen­cils for my stash but then, I figu­red that I really didn’t liked auto-​feed pen­cils that much. Orenz­nero was a huge dis­ap­point­ment for me for this very fea­ture, and the Pilot Auto­mac (which I mana­ged to buy before get­ting dis­con­tin­ued) don’t really suit me either.

    I pre­fer simp­ler mecha­nism such as that of the ori­gi­nal Orenz or that of the early Faber Cas­tell mecha­ni­cal pen­cils. Yet, the Alpha pen­cil looks abso­lut­ely stun­ning in metal.

  2. Thank you for sha­ring your expe­ri­ence. I’m not very happy with this type of auto-​feed eit­her because I don’t like the sleeve drag­ging across the paper. Howe­ver, it depends much on the sleeve’s shape is made; if the edges are pro­perly roun­ded it’s OK. The only auto-​feed pen­cil I enjoy using is the Mitsubishi/​uni Kuru Toga Dive because no part has to touch the paper. – Do you still have the Pilot Auto­mac? If yes, is it really that heavy? Some com­plain about the weight of this pencil.

    I also gene­rally pre­fer simp­ler mecha­nisms and have sold my Alpha-​matics and one TK-​matic many years ago and kept only the two shown here.

  3. Yes, Auto­mac is kinda heavy (26.28g) thou not as heavy as the cur­rent Rot­ring 600 Trio at 32.62g!

    What about the KT Dive, is it really worth spen­ding that much on it? The only mecha­ni­cal pen­cil that makes me want to pull the trig­ger today is Leuchtturm’s Dreh­grif­fel Nr2, but the fact that it hides a Schmidt mecha­nism inside, kinda puts the mood down. I mean, for what its worth, I was expec­ting a bit more engi­nee­ring, not a body with a mass-​produced soul.

    Not­hing against Schmidt; I’ve used their mecha­ni­cal pen­cil innards to con­vert jewels like my 50’s Gil­bert Cri­te­rium biro into a mecha­ni­cal pen­cil and also one of my Peli­kan Colani ballpoints.

  4. Oh – that’s quite heavy!

    Of course I’m also one of those who paid much more than the list price for the Kuru Toga Dive but there is no other way to get it out­side Japan. Nevert­hel­ess, I don’t reg­ret buy­ing it – it’s an excel­lent mecha­ni­cal pen­cil, and both the rota­tion mecha­nism and the auto­ma­tic feed work per­fectly. It’s really inge­nious! By the way, I can also recom­mend the Kuru Toga Metal. It uses the engine from the KS, i. e. the one with the least axial play of all Kuru Togas – you hardly notice it. And if you fancy a Metal 0.3 you can swap the mecha­nism.

    I think I can under­stand your atti­tude towards the Schmidt mecha­nism – “body with a mass-​produced soul” is very apt. Have you ever loo­ked at the mecha­ni­cal pen­cils from Kaweco’s Spe­cial series? I think they are among the hig­hest qua­lity mecha­ni­cal pen­cils curr­ently being pro­du­ced. And they don’t have a Schmidt mechanism ;-)

    50’s Gil­bert Cri­te­rium biro, Peli­kan Colani ball­points – you have some very exci­ting wri­ting instru­ments! Spea­king of con­ver­ting: A very simple solu­tion is to use the Zebra Sarasa Sel­ect mecha­ni­cal pen­cil com­pon­ents. They are available for three lead dia­me­ters, have a pla­s­tic tube which can be cut to size and are cheap.

  5. Just found out that the KT Dive is not metal-​bodied. I would have sweared it was jud­ging from the pic­tures and the magne­tic cap. Yes, I might give the KT Metal a try. Of the two Kuru Togas I own, I like the Advance Upgrade ver­sion a lot. BTW have you ever noti­ced that the KT Rou­lette and the Zebra Del­guard LX are pretty much the same pencil?

    As for the Kaweco Spe­cial series, I do own the 0.9mm pen­cil, and love it for the most part. The only thing that I sim­ply dis­like about it, is that the tip is pla­s­tic. I would have expect it to be metal as is the rest of the body. Love their Sport series pens, thou (might even give a try to their new piston-​filler). Want the Spe­cial 2mm lead holder.

    Thanks for the Zebra Sarasa com­po­nent lead. I can think of a cou­ple pens that might bene­fit from them.

  6. The Kuru Toga Dive’s body isn’t metal but I think that was a good decis­ion – other­wise it would be too heavy. Some say that this pen­cil looks odd, and there is some­thing to it. But I think that descri­bes all the dis­ad­van­ta­ges ;-) So far I haven’t reg­ret the purchase. – I haven’t noti­ced the simi­la­ri­ties of the KT Rou­lette and the Zebra Del­guard LX yet. I don’t have the lat­ter but by loo­king at some pho­tos I can see that they have a few things in com­mon. Maybe they are both made by Kotobuki ;-)

    Yes, the tips of the Kaweco Spe­cial pen­cils are pla­s­tic but I think they are very well made and don’t look like a for­eign object. – The Spe­cial 2 mm lead­hol­der looks really great but I would have pre­fer­red a clutch mechanism.

    I’m curious to hear what you say about the Zebra Sarasa pen­cil component!

  7. It does look a bit weird to me (KT Dive), but what really makes me think twice about get­ting one, is the hefty price tag. But maybe when all the rage is gone, I’ll join the club.

    And yes, those pen­cils (KT vs Del­guard) might as well be manu­fac­tu­red under con­tract. Got both and was incre­di­bly impres­sed by the simi­la­ri­ties. I enjoy my other Del­guard pen­cils a lot, so I was hoping the LX would be more Zebra-​like (thi­c­ker bar­rel for ins­tance), but tur­ned out to be a huge disappointment.

    As for the Spe­cial, it looks good, but when I see the tips of the Fix­pen­cil or the Cri­te­rium on their all-​aluminum bar­rels, I wish Kaweco could have pro­du­ced some­thing more inte­gral. Got a brass Sket­chUp 5.6, for exam­ple, that has not one bit made out of plastic.

    Thank you for let­ting me know about the auto-​advance mecha­nism in the Spe­cial lead hol­der. Not a fan of auto-​advance lead hol­ders eit­her. Too bad!

  8. Yes, the price is hefty, but I don’t think it will come down signi­fi­cantly in the fore­seeable future. On the con­trary – I wouldn’t be sur­pri­sed if the cur­rent series is dis­con­tin­ued (which will cause the pri­ces to soar) and a new one fol­lows, even if it only dif­fers in colour.

    Spea­king of Zebra: Do you also like the Tect 2way? If yes, the Hi-​Note Karakaze01 could be of inte­rest to you.

    Yes, the all-​metal bar­rel of the Fix­pen­cil and the Cri­te­rium is beau­tiful but both pen­cils have other aspects to cri­ti­cise – the first has now a pla­s­tic tube inside and the lat­ter has a clutch with a strange colour that looks off to me.

    The Kaweco Spe­cial 2 mm doesn’t have an auto­ma­tic feed like e. g. the TK-​matic but an incre­men­tal feed like the thin lead pen­cils. By the way, I have a few with that mecha­nism (inclu­ding the STAEDTLER 925 25 20, the Rot­ring Rapid Pro and the now highly-​sought after Rot­ring 800) but after my initial enthu­si­asm faded I don’t use them anymore.

  9. Never really used a Tect 2 Way. Wan­ted to order one for a while but never did. Do you have one? Any good?

    I also have the Staedt­ler (navy blue ver­sion) and the Rapid Pro but never got around to buy the 800. So you own an 800, aside from the fact it is an incre­men­tal advance lead hol­der, do you find it any good?

    In my case, I pre­fer the more tra­di­tio­nal clutch pen­cil lead hol­ders. They work bet­ter for my artis­tic purposes.

  10. I like the Zebra Tect 2way very much and have seve­ral vari­ants, both the regu­lar and the light ver­sion in 0.3 and 0.5 mm. It has one of the smoot­hest mecha­nisms I have ever expe­ri­en­ced in a mecha­ni­cal pen­cil, and the shaker mecha­nism works per­fectly too. The lat­ter can be locked, and if the weight is near the tip when locked the pen­cil has a low centre of gra­vity. The rub­ber rings sit in reces­ses which makes it com­for­ta­ble to handle even for those who are not big fans of rub­ber grips. For some unknown reason this pen­cil doesn’t get the atten­tion it deser­ves! – By the way, Zebra has also OEM’d a shaker pen­cil for MUJI which is very simi­lar to the trans­pa­rent Hi-​Note Karakaze01 except for the button.

    I have only used the 800 /​ 2.0 briefly so far but I really like it. It’s build like a tank, and there is no wob­ble in the tip (as in many other Rot­ring 600 and 800). Howe­ver, it is com­pa­ra­tively heavy. The centre of gra­vity is roughly in the middle of the pen­cil and the lead feed is around 13 mm with ten clicks. I can under­stand why the 800 /​ 2.0 is very popu­lar with coll­ec­tors but I wouldn’t pay the cur­rent pri­ces. And if I had to choose I’d pre­fer the 600 /​ 2.0 because it’s ligh­ter and easier to use, espe­ci­ally when shar­pe­ning the lead.

  11. Gonna give the Zebra a try. After buy­ing their Del­guard LX, kind of deci­ded to hold on purcha­sing the Tect 2way, but after your recom­men­da­tion might as well give it a try.

    Pilot’s Neox lead still your favorite?

  12. Yes, go for it – you won’t reg­ret it. Some ver­si­ons of the Zebra Tect 2way are also cheap and easy to get so it wouldn’t be too much of a loss if you don’t like that pen­cil after all.

    The Pilot Neox Gra­phite are still my favou­rite leads (I use mostly 2B but also B and HB). About a year ago I made the last com­pa­ri­son so far, with the new Pen­tel Ain leads. These are really good but they couldn’t get me away from the Pilot leads either.

  13. Will order one soon. What is the dif­fe­rence bet­ween the light and nor­mal version?

    Haven’t tried the new Ain leads yet. But have the newer Uni smudge-​free, and just as you, I keep on being a Neox fan. Truly love those leads. BTW do you own’s Uni metal lead case? What’s your take on it?

    Just got mine this week, and I did really like it. Plan­ning to sub­sti­tute leads with Neox, thou!

  14. The Zebra Tect 2way light has a pla­s­tic grip ins­tead of a metal one and weighs 16 g ins­tead of 23 g. Bes­i­des that, it is available in nice trans­lu­cent colours.

    For me, the uni metal case is well made but ulti­m­ately an over­pri­ced toy with no added value com­pared to the pla­s­tic cases.

    Great to hear that you also like the Pilot Neox Gra­phite leads!

  15. Someone recently sug­gested me to try the Rot­ring 500 so I’ve been using my KIN Rapi­do­graph 5633 these last few days. What a great pen­cil it is! Have you ever used eit­her of these? What are your thoughts?

    Do you hap­pen to like Kokuyo or Pla­ti­num leads? 

    As for the Uni metal lead case, totally agree. But then again, these days, peo­ple seem more than wil­ling to pay a lot for expen­sive toys.

  16. The Rot­ring 500 is ama­zing! It’s ligh­ter than the 600, and with the metal grip and the pla­s­tic bar­rel it has a lower centre of gra­vity which I pre­fer (unfort­u­na­tely the 0.3 mm vari­ants are now dis­con­tin­ued). Many years ago I had the Rapi­do­graph 5635 but sold it because I found the knur­ling too aggres­sive. Is your 5633 made in Japan or China? Some reviews com­plain that the lat­ter is rather poorly made.

    Do you know the Koh-​I-​Noor 5617 Select-​O-​Matic lead­hol­der with its inno­va­tive hard­ness indi­ca­tor? It was sold until around 1984 and was fol­lo­wed by the Koh-​I-​Noor 5614 Select-​O-​Matic II lead­hol­der which intro­du­ced the knur­led hard­ness indi­ca­tor. This design was later used for the Rapi­do­graph 563x and Rot­ring 500/​600 pen­cils so the 5614 Select-​O-​Matic II is the arche­type (and for me one of the most ama­zing leadholders).

    I have never used Kokuyo or Pla­ti­num leads. Have you?

    Expen­sive toys always sell well ;-)

  17. Mine is the Japa­nese ver­sion. It’s from the late 90’s or early 2000. Before the sug­ges­tion, it was more of coll­ec­tion item as I pres­sed way hard for the tiny 0.3mm lead. Nowa­days, I’ve trai­ned my hand to exer­cise far less pres­sure and now I have been fin­ding it ama­zing. Thin­king of orde­ring a cur­rent 0.5mm ver­sion of R500 in green/​black. Thou the R600 weight is not much of an issue for me (use them for dra­wing mainly), I do find mecha­ni­cal pen­cils with metal grips + pla­s­tic bar­rels quite satis­fy­ing to use.

    Wasn’t aware of the 5617 or 5614 to be honest. They both seem to be quite rare as they have never pop­ped on my radar before. And I’ve been loo­king for KIN lead hol­ders, believe me!

    Thanks for brin­ging it to my attention!

    Yes, I own a cou­ple of Kokuyo lead packs and a few Pla­ti­num leads. Kokuyo makes but­tery smooth leads that are a plea­sure to use for calligraphy/​ let­te­ring (got 0.7/ 0.9/ 1.3mm) while Pla­ti­num is not as smooth, but it quite a plea­sure to use. Again, not as good as Neox, but much more satis­fy­ing than the old Ain Stein and the Uni offe­rings. The ones I own were shared to me by a fri­end that went to Japan last year. Never seen them for sale out­side of Japan.

  18. Then you are very lucky to have the Japa­nese ver­sion of the 5633! It’s almost impos­si­ble to find one these days.

    When using 0.3 mm leads not only the wri­ting pres­sure is important but also a low-​play lead guide. Thi­c­ker leads are more break-​resistant and more for­gi­ving, but with 0.3 mm leads, play in the lead guide tube increa­ses the risk of breakage.

    I’m curious to know what you think about the Rot­ring 500!

    The Koh-​I-​Noor 5617 and 5614 have become quite rare (alt­hough you will find a bat­te­red spe­ci­men now and then). But it’s worth loo­king for, espe­ci­ally for the 5614.

    Thank you for the details on the Kokuyo and Pla­ti­num leads!

  19. Wasn’t aware of its popu­la­rity. And yes, using 0.3mm leads is quite a chall­enge. Oddly enough, when I star­ted wri­ting with my right-​hand (am a lef­tie), I used to put less pres­sure on the tip. These days, it appears to be rever­ted. Also when using foun­tain pens, I pro­duce thin­ner lines with my left than with my right.

    Will report as soon as I get it. Also, orde­red ano­ther Pilot S10 along with ano­ther S20… do you know where this is heading?

    Will open my eyes for one of those KIN 5614. Do you own those?

  20. So you write and draw with both hands? That’s impres­sive! And your obser­va­tions are remarkable.

    I don’t know where this is hea­ding but maybe it will lead you to a Pilot S15 ;-)

    Yes, I have a 5614, but I haven’t used it for a long time.

  21. Finally got my hands on the Rot­ring 500. It looks quite nice in dark green with black grip and lead indi­ca­tor but you imme­dia­tely notice a dif­fe­rence bet­ween this and the KIN Rapi­do­ma­tic (Japanese=made, circa 90’s or early ‘00). The KIN weights 15.53g, whe­reas the R500 is 12.92. Even if its a minus­cule dif­fe­rence, it does trans­late to the hand. I pre­sume the dif­fe­rence lies in the innards of each pen­cil, the KIN must be brass; Rotring’s pla­s­tic. Just as in the 600, the early edi­ti­ons have a coar­ser grip than the newer ones. The lead indicator’s knur­ling remains the same on both.

    Will let you know my thoughts as I use it more extensively.

    Also, got you on the dif­fe­rent aspects that can lead to breakage. I was using a Paper Mate all-​plastic Chinese-​made pen­cil the other day and I detec­ted a bit of wobbling on the tip, which was weird since this pen­cil didn’t even had a sli­ding sleeve. As I star­ted using it to fill a diary entry, I noti­ced I was brea­king the 0.5mm lead pretty often. I swit­ched hands, and still the same was hap­pe­ning. Did ano­ther test with an Steadt­ler 779 and never broke the lead a sin­gle time on eit­her hand. Mea­ning the poor con­s­truc­tion of the pen­cil doesn’t pro­vide the lead with pro­per sup­port and this results on fre­quent lead breakage. So yeah, it’s not only a fac­tor of lead-width.

    Also got me a Faber Cas­tell TK Fine Vario L in 1.0mm. Lovely pen­cil and solid build. Was hoping for it to be Ger­man, but turns out to be Japa­nese. The soft-​hard adjus­t­ment seems gim­mi­cky at first hand, but will let you know if it makes a dif­fe­rence long-​term. On a can­did note, the colors of the Rotring’s 500 bar­rel and the Vario are the same, just one matte, one shiny!

    Have tried this pencil?

    Still awai­ting for my “parts” for that GS S15 conversion!

  22. Thank you for sha­ring your impres­si­ons of the Rot­ring 500. I can ima­gine that this dif­fe­rence in weight is noti­ceable! Howe­ver, hea­vier is not always bet­ter, espe­ci­ally with pro­lon­ged use.

    As far as the knur­ling is con­cer­ned, I’m puz­zled by the vari­ants at Rot­ring. On some pen­cils it is very sharp and on others (e. g. the sil­ver 800/2.0) it is unu­sually smooth. I’d love to know how this varia­tion came about!

    A wob­bly tip is awful, not only because of the lead breakage but also for the wri­ting expe­ri­ence. As far as I know the part of the lead bet­ween the clutch and the sleeve is very sus­cep­ti­ble to breakage, and that’s why Zebra has put a lot of effort into their Del­guard pen­cils which have a spe­cial pro­tec­tion for this part of the lead.

    No, I haven’t tried the TK Fine Vario L in 1.0 mm (I haven’t even seen it yet). The colour simi­la­rity is nice! – It’s inte­res­t­ing to hear that this pen­cil was made in Japan. On that occa­sion: Do you know the Mitsu­bi­shi M5-​50 Hi-​Pitch and the Faber-​Castell TK 9555? They both have the same unu­sual shape, and I have been told that the TK 9555 was made by Mitsu­bi­shi. Howe­ver, since there are OEMs like Koto­buki, Preco and Iwa­saki I’m not sure if Mitsu­bi­shi is really the manufacturer.

    It’s great to hear that you will do the S15 mod too! Howe­ver, the idea for the S15 didn’t come from me – I lear­ned about it from isu whom I like to call “king of pen­cil mods”.

  23. Yes I know. Also, pla­s­tic isn’t always that bad. The cur­rent Rot­ring 600 for exam­ple, has more pla­s­tic pie­ces in its inner workings than my early ver­sion. Yet, the click feed­back feels much smoot­her and the newer ver­sion is far less noisy than the original.

    No idea why Rot­ring has all these design varia­ti­ons. Quite puz­zling as you say.

    As for wob­bly tips, indeed, those are a night­mare. One of the reasons I barely use the Kuru Toga Roulette.

    As for those Mitsu/​ Faber pen­cils turns out the manu­fac­tu­rer was Yosu­tomo, look here https://bit.ly/3WKhLpg

  24. Some time ago I tried to get an over­view of the dif­fe­rent ver­si­ons of the Rot­ring 600, but unfort­u­na­tely I didn’t suc­ceed. I also remem­ber a docu­ment with an over­view, but it con­tai­ned errors. It’s dif­fi­cult – there were at least three dif­fe­rent ver­si­ons of the part with the spring alone, and they were in pen­cils that also dif­fe­red in other details …

    So far I haven’t noti­ced any wob­ble in the Kuru Toga Rou­lette. It has a bit more axial play than other Kuru Toga models but no noti­ceable radial play which could lead to breakage. – By the way, the Kuru Toga KS has the lowest axial play of all models, and its engine is also used in the Kuru Toga Metal (and it can be swap­ped so you can make a Kuru Toga Metal in 0.3 mm).

    I’m not sure if we’re tal­king about the same pen­cil – I was refer­ring to the fifth from the right in this photo (Mitsu­bi­shi) and the fifth from the top in this photo (Faber-​Castell). But be careful when loo­king for one – both can suf­fer from bar­rel cracks below the button.

  25. Yes, the more I dug into Rotring’s 600 history, the more con­fu­sing things got. From a guy from Rus­sia clai­ming that KIN was the ori­gi­nal manu­fac­tu­rer of it, to many, many varia­ti­ons on dif­fe­rent parts of the pen­cil. I once saw a Rot­ring 600 with a clip marked KIN on it. Once upon a time I used to believe that the ear­lier ver­si­ons of the 600 were manu­fac­tu­red in Ger­many, nowa­days am pretty con­vin­ced that no such thing exists. All seem to be Japa­nese, which opens the door to ano­ther con­jec­ture, that the design of the pen­cil came from a Japa­nese third party manu­fac­tu­rer (Hol­bein maybe?)

    As a can­did detail, the card­board boxes for my early 600 pen and pen­cil, indi­cate that Peli­kan was the importer for Mexico and my wood-​boxed Rot­ring let­te­ring set, sta­tes that the set was manu­fac­tu­red in Mexico by Peli­kan. Yet all iso­graphs inside are marked W. Germany!

    As for the Rou­lette, again, if I write cur­sive with my left hand, it beco­mes unbe­ara­ble, the tip wob­bles within each stroke. If I use the right, it feels a bit bet­ter. Gonna try the Metal KT soon.

    As for the Mitsu/​ FC, you are com­ple­tely right. It’s a dif­fe­rent pen­cil. But the pen­cil on that thread was also manu­fac­tu­red by Yosu­tomo for Mitsu and Faber. So maybe, the M5-​50 Hi-​Pitch and the TK 9555 also come from them.

  26. Accor­ding to the now defunct Lead­hol­der web­site the first Rot­ring 600 were made by Rot­ring in Ger­many, and this is also what I was told many years ago by a Ger­man store owner. It’s some­ti­mes dif­fi­cult with pen­cils on the Inter­net – in some cases they are “fran­ken­pen­cils” which con­sist of parts of dif­fe­rent pen­cils. Howe­ver, the aut­hors of the pho­tos or the owners of the pen­cils can­not auto­ma­ti­cally be bla­med for this, as they may have bought the pen­cil as it is and don’t know its history. Bes­i­des that, it is also pos­si­ble that the retailer gave them the wrong box which makes iden­ti­fi­ca­tion even more dif­fi­cult. – Someone fami­liar with the indus­try con­firmed to me that early vari­ants of the 600 were manu­fac­tu­red by Par­ker in Ger­many so neither the design nor the early pen­cils have any­thing to do with Japan.

    It’s inte­res­t­ing to hear that Peli­kan was the importer for Mexico. – The mar­king “W. Ger­many” means that the Iso­graph were made before 1989.

    I’m sorry to hear about your issues with the Kuru Toga Rou­lette. I notice a very small radial play with mine, but alt­hough I’m actually very picky about it, it doesn’t bother me.

    So it’s worth try­ing to find out more about Yasu­tomo and their pro­duc­tion for Faber-​Castell and Mitsu­bi­shi! – By the way, I just remem­be­red a Yasu­tomo ad from 1967 that I showed here 14 years ago.

  27. Inte­res­t­ing details. Howe­ver I’ve got some obser­va­tions, by the 80´s Par­ker was alre­ady the pro­perty of the employees of their UK parent-​company and as far as I know, at the end of the 70’s Par­ker clo­sed pretty much all their plants world­wide with the excep­tion of Eng­land and the USA before sel­ling their pen divi­sion, and the buy­out of Par­ker by Newell (owner of Rot­ring since 1998) occur­red in 2000. When the 600 was offi­ci­ally intro­du­ced in 1989 but appeared in 1987, Par­ker had not a sin­gle mecha­ni­cal pen­cil wit­hout a pro­pel­ling mecha­nism back then.

    Wouldn’t they need the pro­per too­ling to pro­duce a pen­cil that was com­ple­tely dif­fe­rent from what they manu­fac­tu­red then? Would it make sense to invest in such a ven­ture from a finan­cial stand point when their sales were hardly out of the red and when Rot­ring wasn’t doing any bet­ter? Also, Koh-​I-​Noor Rapi­do­ma­tics sold con­curr­ently along­side the early Rot­ring 600 (some even sport­ing the KIN brand in cata­logs), and those were manu­fac­tu­red in Japan since the early days. KIN US was purcha­sed by Rot­ring in the 80’s. There is not a sin­gle Rapi­do­ma­tic with a Ger­many mar­king on it. Wouldn’t it make sense to manu­fac­ture all their pen­cils in Japan ver­sus having a split-production?

    This would only make sense in the Gil­lette era, but that hap­pened in 1993, well after the 600 introduction.

    My Rot­rings 600 which were impor­ted to Mexico in the early 90’s doesn’t men­tion any­where where they come from. But it’s weird that it doesn’t say Made in Ger­many any­where on the box or the import sticker.

    BTW Look the clip of the 600 here: https://bit.ly/3SQOGaW

  28. Thank you for these details! I didn’t get that deep into it, so I can’t com­ment on it. Howe­ver, I could ima­gine that some parts were manu­fac­tu­red abroad and then assem­bled in Ger­many with parts manu­fac­tu­red here which would make the ques­tion of the place of manu­fac­ture even more dif­fi­cult. – This would cer­tainly be an exci­ting topic for the Knocko­logy forum because that’s where the experts are.

    Thank you for the link! The comm­ents con­tain a lot of exci­ting details. And it’s much more com­pli­ca­ted than one might think …

    Regar­ding cata­lo­gue pho­tos: I am very careful when it comes to accep­ting them as a relia­ble source. It was not unu­sual to edit the pho­tos or to show pro­to­ty­pes so that some of what ended up on the mar­ket dif­fe­red from the pictures.

    By the way, do you know the Rot­ring Museum?

    I’m not fami­liar with the Faber-​Castell Alpha-​matic. Many years ago I had a few but finally sold them. Again, Knocko­logy is the per­fect place to ask.

  29. Yeah, guess we’ll never know what the real history of the 600 came about. Deep rab­bit hole. Never heard of that Rot­ring Museum site before. Thanks for pro­vi­ding me the poin­ter, will dive deep into it!

    Unfort­u­na­tely the Alpha deal didn’t took place, so no Alphas for me in the meantime.

  30. From my own expe­ri­ence, I know that it’s worth sti­cking with it, and espe­ci­ally with a brand as well-​known as Rot­ring it should be pos­si­ble to find out more.

    I’m sorry to hear that the deal with the Alpha-​Matic didn’t work out!

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